Poems for July 8

Astrophil and Stella #48 by Philip Sidney (30 November 1554 – 17 October 1586)
Stars at Tallapoosa -- by Wallace Stevens (October 2, 1879 – August 2, 1955)
Choose Something Like a Star by Robert Frost March 26, 1874- January 29, 1963)
Middle-Aged Woman at the Pastry Counter by Robert Peake
“A World Without Objects Is a Sensible Emptiness'' by Richard Wilbur b. 3/1/1921


How is it that each week, a poem pops up, or a theme suggesting itself? I am reading right now "the Dancing Wu Li Masters" by Gary Zukav and think of the 80 meanings of "Wu" and the five "Wu li" which thread meanings into a tapestry of understanding of physics.
to wit: (p. 7 of the paperback version)
patterns of energy
my way
nonsense
I clutch my ideas
Enlightenment

Perhaps a similar thing happens with poetry in Chinese -- certainly pattern was one of the criteria this week -- but so was the idea of "star" and energy... and a few suggestions that popped up on internet as other people who post poems choose...
Our discussion will start with Elizabethan times, but end with a 20th century poem whose title refers to a 17th century mystic (Traherne). We will continue our discussion of pros and cons of form -- and how successful it is at enhancing, engaging given our minds tempered by the 21st century. How much "time" translation must we do? What universals unfold?

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