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Thursday, June 13, 2019

Poems for June 12


How to Be a Poet BY WENDELL BERRY
Breathe. As in. (shadow)by Rosamond S. King
 Let’s remake the world with words by Gregory Orr
What is the Grass?by Mark Doty
Border Town Graduates by Anthony Seidman
Calling On All Silent Minorities by June Jordan
 Legacy by Reginald Dwayne Betts
lifedance by Charles Bukowski
How It Seems To Me by Ursula LeGuin

I love how a group of 17-22 people animates the words on the 4-6 pages of poems, bringing 
different perspectives, experiences, background.  Yesterday's discussion of these poems seemed
more filled with stories than usual, which left me with a sense of entire worlds unfolding.  

How to be a poet:
This could be a manual about how to live... and indeed reflects Wendell Berry's world, living 
on his farm in Kentucky, his ecological activism, and his religious views.  
 After the title,  Berry's  small parenthesis (to remind myself) gives a touch of humility, and sets the tone of an honest conversation in the three stanzas, each marked by i, ii, iii. 

I felt compelled to google the reference  " like prayers  prayed back to the one who prays" which refers to both the art of listening and the attentive presence of a Divine figure.  The poem gives a sense of  deep reverence, not attached specifically to Christian tradition,   however,  I further googled Wendell Berry + Christianity, and stumbled on many articles which criticize his viewpoints... Here is one such:   https://www.plough.com/en/topics/faith/discipleship/the-hole-in-wendell-berrys-gospel
  

The group all admired how carefully he lays out his thinking and demonstrates what a poem can do to sort out complex thoughts and feelings.  Poetry, whether written to be  "a momentary stay against confusion" (Frost), a source of inspiration, comfort, a connection with someone else,  can be an effective way of enhancing understanding.  

Below this paragraph, I reproduce the first stanza so you can observe the way Berry crafts his thinking.
Note the first three sentences, how even though they are short, they are not curt, but inviting. 
Note the highlighted qualifier on what we must depend on that divides the first four qualities from the last four.  This placement invites reflection on the importance of affection, reading, knowledge, skill ... perhaps inspiration and work also are in league... but the shift to  the inevitable, "growing older" and the most important quality of all-- patience...comes as a surprise, especially with the reassurance that this joins our (limited) time to eternity.
We all chuckled at the last sentence.  What a wonderful combination of being tongue-in-cheek, with a tinge of humility in this ability to poke fun at oneself.


Make a place to sit down.       
Sit down. Be quiet.   
You must depend upon   
affection, reading, knowledge,   
skill—more of each   
than you have—inspiration,   
work, growing older, patience,   
for patience joins time   
to eternity. Any readers   
who like your poems,   
doubt their judgment.    

The second stanza is clearly witty:
"Breathe with unconditional breath  /the unconditioned air."   
and although the 2-D life of TV, computers is implied in the "screens", the choice of word
brings to mind the barriers that keep us from a rich and fulfilling 3-D life.  Unsacred is a word
you will not find in a dictionary-- which reinforces the non-existence of "unsacredness" and 
indisputable sense of sacred in everything.
The final stanza addresses a mindfulness as unconditional as breathing, a participatory rather than petitioning act. "petition with prayer", as opposed mindful breathing.

Martin brought up genetics... how women like men who are witty -- and Claudia echoed that we all
have "divine DNA"... and David A. recited another Wendell Berry poem by heart.

Peace of Wild Things

When despair for the world grows in me 
and I wake in the night at the least sound in fear 
of what my life and my children’s lives may be, 
I go and lie down where the wood drake
rests in his beauty on the water, and the great heron feeds.
 I come into the peace of wild things 
who do not tax their lives with forethought
 of grief. I come into the presence of still water.
 And I feel above me the day-blind stars 
waiting with their light. For a time 
I rest in the grace of the world, and am free.


Breathe. As in. (shadow)
The poet explains how she works.  We discussed the placement of the periods -- first mark on a line,
so one might pronounce "period" -- and the vernacular use of emphasizing by saying, "period".
It corroborates the picture of the eye (homonym for I). This witty poem uses repetition, overlays, slips of language (golden/gold in; spectacle/spectacular; mundo/mundane/centeroftheworld)  The placement of "As in" and the periods is not distracting, but rather intriguing. I love how the period,  is the final mark of the poem.
Understanding that the poem was written as a response to Eric Garner's murder by police, increases the impact.  Imagine that.  

The silence in the last two sentences is deafening.  You have the right to remain
.
Imagine 
that
.

Breathe
. As in what if
the shadow is gold
en? Breathe. As in
hale assuming
exhale. Imagine
that.      As in first
person singular. Homonym
:eye. As in subject. As.  
in centeroftheworld as in
mundane. The opposite of spectacle
spectacular. This is just us
breathing. Imagine
normalized respite
gold in shadows
. You have the
right to breathe and remain
. Imagine
that
.

**
The Gregory Orr: 

This gem of a poem demonstrates what metaphor does… and poetry:  it remakes the world.  Someone remarked, "it helps us survive the original chaos to bring order." 
 David S. quoted Shelley:"Poetry lifts the veil from the hidden beauty of the world, and makes familiar objects be as if they were not familiar."    
The words themselves. use the word as in the way it was first used.

Mark Doty:  We are assuming that the book in question is Whitman's Leaves of Grass.  Whether or not, the poems engages the function of words, and how some feel they "settle things".  A rose is a rose is a rose... whereas a writer knows, draft after draft after draft, how difficult it is to capture
what compels him to write in words.
David S. brought up the delightful anecdote of a conversation where one man remarks to another,
that the sound of the bird they hear belongs to the nightingale and proceeds to translate it into
French, German, Turkish, etc.  and yet, with all these colorful sounds of words, none of them
explain the nature of the bird.  
Elaine O followed with a story about an anecdote of sharing with foreigners  how different languages render  their sounds.  When it came to the rooster, they fell down laughing at the English
"Cock-a-doodle-doo" which sounds not at all like a rooster!

The next poem: Graduates can be a verb as well as a noun. 
I chose it because of the  opening sentence of this evocative sketch of a border town in 10 lines.
Although we're closer to feeling the grass
pulled over our lips forever,
we still bare our dirty teeth and laugh.

The author has quite a bio! http://www.versedaily.org/2019/aboutanthonyseidman.shtml

June Jordan's poem is written in loud capital letters
We know about the silent majority... but she calls on the silent minority.
exhortation… an address or communication emphatically urging someone to do something.  Nuns telling the true story.  Judith recalled the song by Burl Ives,  Nicodemus… 
Nicodemus, the slave, was of African birth,  /And was bought for a bagful of gold, /He was reckon'd as part of the salt of the earth, /But he died years ago very old. /'Twas his last sad request, /so we laid him away /In the trunk of an old hollow tree. "Wake me up!" was his charge, "/at the first break of day, /Wake me up for the great Jubilee!"
Legacy... the bars that once held Jackson Brown... embrace us...
We need June's loud letters to change the way we treat people in prison, use prisons. period.
Listen to Dylan... read about Black Power, watch Black August.   1971: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2WfzlskjYc Black August  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_August_(film)

For the last two poems, I suggested they swap titles... and see if that changed the feeling
lifedance by Charles Bukowski. (9 lines)
How It Seems To Me by Ursula LeGuin. (10 lines)

Bukowski, angry, caustic, bitter and beat.  Is there  an area dividing 
 brain and the soul?  What happens when you lose your mind?  Why if you lose both are
you "accepted"?  Are these the only choices:  insane, intellectual and accepted?
Is this "how it seems to him?"  Why the title "Lifedance"?  What a brief and unsatisfying life.


LeGuin,  on the other hand, uplifting,  as she explores soul and self in a spiritual, uplifting way making a short poem version of Genesis as Bernie puts it.
I love the tone of "How it seems to me" -- which is a life dance...








Friday, June 7, 2019

O Pen : Poems for June 5

Coming to the Morning  by W.S. Merwin
Business by Gregory Fraser
A Word on Statistics by Wislawa Szymborska
Also Known As  by Jim Moore
The Low Road by Marge Piercy
Like You by Roque Dalton --Translated by Jack Hirschman 

See Oasis, May 16: 

1.  Merwin:  We all love Merwin and invented an adjective in his honor.  Merwinesque implies that one is dealing in multiples, not literals... 
There is something so quietly metaphysical... our origins in the sea... and the ears, shaped like seashells...
Coming to morning is a wonderful title...is coming a noun or gerund?  who is coming?  who is you? The morning?   All of man?  The first morning (feel of Genesis and in the beginning the separation of night and day) it doesn't seem to matter since everything is so interconnected.   Let there be light!
musical.   mmmmm…  stress pattern… like waves
cannot talk about Merwin poem “literally”
deals in multiples… spatial and temporal
Maui in morning… /all of man;/ cosmic/. beginnings… 
testing limits of literal: metaphor. (David). plain statements stretched to metaphor

2. Business:  busy-ness.  How do you say "this is my business" and how does that change the meaning?   What is "business" -- affairs of the world... the world.  the thusness of this.
wonderful poem combining humor and seriousness... a reminder of mindfulness.

what’s the right way to understand our perceptions
Things seen are as things seen.  Wallace Stevens.
I love how the lines out of context play on ulterior meanings, for ex.
Whose life hasn’t been that jacket, (and you think of life-jacket), but the line before is about
the spare (required) sports jacket... allowing business + one's "business" to spar.

3.  Szymborska:  the one stanza where there is not statistic is about cruelty.
Cruel
when forced by circumstances:    

it's better not to know,
not even approximately.     

The conceit of the poem comes from this juxtaposition of concrete measurement to subjective assessment.  Pithy and smacking of Szymborska's spittle and wit.

4. AKA.  Enjoyable, but we felt the last line unnecessary.  Getting over yourself was understood. We looked him up.
JIM MOORE is the author of five collections of poetry. He lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and Spoleto, Italy, and is getting used to being the oldest person in the room.
overtone of “suffer the little children… keys to kingdom of heaven.”
poem about getting perspective.  how reconcile the fact of dying.

5. The Low Road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNjiPNd9iwU. (eloquent reading of the poem.
The beginning makes you think of Abu Graibh…
We discussed the context of the song Loch Lommond.
you’ll take the high road… king’s road.. families on low road.
see background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bonnie_Banks_o%27_Loch_Lomond

6.  Like you:
associations: Dalton an exile from san salvadore… 

"I will die again and again to know that life is inexhaustible". — Tagore

ordinary miracles... change can come on tiptoes... 



Poems for May 29-30

For Memorial Day, Paul read us, "And the Band Played Walzing Matilda"
https://genius.com/Eric-bogle-and-the-band-played-waltzing-matilda-lyrics
 looked for Liam’ Clancy's version of singing and found this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFCekeoSTwg

you see the lyrics here.

That set the tone for the rest of the poems.  I thank each of you present for sharing so deeply. 
Of note from the discussion,  you might wish to consult:
 https://vimeo.com/126195546 :  Nathalie recites her poem with a background film of Ship’s Island


You can hear Peter recite his poem “Lost in Plain Sight” and see a picture of him, meet his wife, find out more about him.
Scroll down to Peter and Pat the poem starts at 1:50. 
You will want to hear “For This”.  6: 43

We discussed how knowing more about the poet, can enhance the poem… how some poems stand on their own.
Associations came up for instance  
The Night I Wore the Purple Dress by January Gill O’Neil brought up  popsicle toes : sung by Diana Krall



Line up:
Theories of Time and Space by Natasha Trethewey
 Lost in Plain Sightby Peter Schneider
A House Called Tomorrow  — Alberto Rios
The Doll Museum by Caitlin Doyle
The Falling Body  by Abby Murray  
The Night I Wore the Purple Dress by January Gill O’Neil
Tender Buttons [A Long Dress] Gertrude Stein
To the Rain by Ursula K. LeGuin
Days  by Philip Larkin

1. Theories: Delightful title... and invitation to reconsider how we "ground" the ideas "time" and "space".  background:  Native Guard:  Ship Island: confederate soldiers guarded by first  "Native Guard" of all black soldiers.
Hurricane Camille. Distortion of time… slavery… https://vimeo.com/126195546
I love that the boats become stitches... the reassurance that you must carry only the necessary... that the "tome" of memory has random blank pages... that this too, makes as much "sense" as anything else.

A day’s time repeats a lifetime.   (James Joyce, Ulysses) A picture of Dorian Gray. images of soldiers … daguerrotypes…  Maura: “the morning tells the day…for each newborn.
 Layers of history … its undeniable effect what is passed on in our genes through trauma…  buried terrain of the past… 
our whole environment changing… we think a photograph can capture something... but that too has blind spots.

2. Lost: It's funny until it isn’t. We can all associate with typical aging. The title and last line describe alzheimers.  Not sure who brought up WW 1 poets: Graves; Sassoon. Stairs and question of "What do I do now?"
The poem addresses a larger humanity and emptiness, not just a personal confessional or description of  fog rolling in. Another fine poem about loss, like Bishop:  One Art and the chapbook by
 Sarah Freligh, Sad Math.

3.  House:  We may have discussed this poem before, but it felt like a fitting antidote... The optimism of building a house of tomorrow offsets a sense of loss.  My favorite  comforting line: 
You are made, fundamentally, from the good.
With this knowledge, you never march alone.


I will add what I told my grown-up kids:
OK, you could say… what proof, what definition, what anything is there of "good"… or, you could say, hmmmm… however I don’t understand exactly what is being said… I like the pairing of “good” as in bounty, as in nourishing for body, mind, spirit, and by extension… family, community, world… 
I greet the good in you — and by gum… I wager you will be greeted back by the good in others.

I have yet to see this fail in my 66+ years!

 it is equally true, as Mary Oliver says in “Wild Geese”, “you do not have to be good…
I think she’s pointing out, that goodness is part of the scheme of things.  http://www.phys.unm.edu/~tw/fas/yits/archive/oliver_wildgeese.html

4. Doll Museum:  brilliant elegy... using Egyptian stone dolls, and those of a sister... curious end-rhyme that subtly reinforces the unfolding meaning.  tomb/room... guard/yard... life/knife... stone and mid-line, alone.

5.  Falling Body: brilliant portrayal of  ptsd at work... a little girl falls, and the father in his mind is the medic trying to help a buddy.  the red lotus carpet is a perfect detail for the scene. 

6. Purple dress.  Oh my!  Oh my!  the lines are so smooth... the zipper of the dress, the river... the blend of colors... and how that dress owned the narrator -- audience too captivated by " a condition of longing
that creates more longing."  

7.  paired with  Gertrude Stein, with an equally electric effect of layering... sensuality and philosophy!  what is current... as both machine but also fashion?  
"Where is the serene length, it is there and a dark place is not a dark place, only a white and red are black, only a yellow and green are blue, a pink is scarlet, a bow is every color. A line distinguishes it. A line just distinguishes it."  So much in the long line... a line distinguishes it.  Just.
"Scaparoni" crowed Judith!  Indeed.

8, to the Rain:  LeGuin:
alliteration in every line but the varied vowels ensure it doesn’t thump.
Takes you into large universal.
alliteration: mental process.  we’re attracted to process.
comparative…

9.  Days: Oh my.  It's enough to praise the possibilities in days:
What are days for?
Days are where we live.   
They come, they wake us   
Time and time over.
They are to be happy in:   
Where can we live but days?    

The second stanza brings doctor and priest who examine how do you lived them-- but of what use it that?



Thursday, June 6, 2019

Poems for May 22-23

I Don’t Know What Will Kill Us First: The Race War or What We’ve Done to the Earthby Fatimah Asghar
The Conditional by Ada Limon
The Ghosts of Georgia O’Keeffe and Sigmund Freud Meet in New Mexico
by krstaten
Who is Less Than a Vapor?  by Rowan Ricardo Phillips
Why the HG is Holy BY MARK HALLIDAY
 Dear P. [If you are] Victoria Chang


I don't know... a poem of semi-colons, set in unrhymed tercets to ponder what threatens our existence...  a Race War, and what we have done to each other, and our  equally undeclared, unacknowledged actions against the earth.  
The poem's question is acknowledged yet any answer avoided in the first line of the last stanza about trapping a butterfly... followed by an embrace of mindful fulness.  The last afterthought, a completed sentence of affirmation where the "it" can refer not only to the butterfly continuing...but also its world, replete with slavery...  but is the final sentence only confirmation of  wishful thinking?  What do we take for granted?  Why do we want to capture something?


so you trapped it in a jar & gave it to a girl   
you liked. I asked if it died. you say you like
to think it lived a long life. yes, it lived a long life. 

Comments: Truth has many forms.  is 2 wks long for a butterfly?  What is a long life?
Long life:  = memory.  Humans are like butterflies… in terms of Earth’s time.

 How do you tell the truth? It takes  3 generations to complete a migration between Canada to Peru.  
Happiness if like a butterfly, the more you chase it the more it eludes you.


The final sentence sounds as if the narrator is trying to convince herself to be optimistic.
We enjoyed the note: “I think about the ways that our world feels unsustainable—some of the most pressing ways being the race war that always feels like it’s boiling right under the surface, and climate change/disaster. This poem is about a day that I got lost in a conversation with a friend, and it felt like things slowed down around me, and I was able to put those fears aside and just appreciate what was around me. And how hopeful that is, getting lost in the words and presence of someone you love, having them put a pause on the impending doom that seems right around the corner at all times.”



The Conditional: a series introduced by anaphor "Say"... part conjecture, part imperative...
One day, won't our sun be gone?  And what will we say?  Can you see yourself saying the last three lines with conviction?  Or is considering that possibility enough?
Say, It doesn't matter. Say, That would be
enough. Say you'd still want this: us alive,
right here, feeling lucky. 

The title, The Creative Drive by Catherine Barnett could be  the fun of substituting poems for trees  as the prime augmenter of the value of a home but also a physical drive in a car around a suburb where trees have been cut down where efficiency is more important than beauty…
We’ve created a system that is not healthy  

for poems,” said someone. Over the next thirty years,
there won’t be any poems where there are overhead wires.
Some poems may stay as a nuisance,

as a gorgeous marker of time.    

Group comments:  Clever. likeable.  The article the poet refers to is about neighborhoods where trees cut down…   cultural environment nurturing for poets also on the wan.   Do people still know Joyce Kilmer's poem, "Trees" (1913)? https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/12744/trees
 ... The systematic killing of trees reminiscent of ww2.  
Monty Python-esque…

The Ghosts: by k r staten: "loose cannon blogger"
We discussed at length who is talking -- O Keefe or Freud?  or a dialogue between both?  How that changes the understanding.  Perhaps it is the narrator/[poet saying the repeated (and final)
line:
I didn’t come here to talk about painting.

So, who is coming where to talk about what?  

Painting is a surface. Freud probing … 
Two realms don’t interface. Is Georgia’s ghost speaking to Freud’s insistence… is she bodying out what was inside?
Statement by O’Keefe about the importance of details.  It helps to know the lives of these ghosts!

WhiteFatimah Asghar
The last word on each line is "white"... but like a ghazal, the meanings are strung like pearls to make
a complex necklace... race, snowstorm, erasure


Who is Less Than a Vapor?  by Rowan Ricardo Phillips PhD… 
 after Donne’s Meditation XII[1][1]http://www.online-literature.com/donne/404/
Complex... The introduction of the Jester at the end allows a way to counteract ruthless power.  point out absurdities.   One person thought it was about DT, another was reminded of Rush Limbaugh as daffy duck, another of  Vaping… 

Why the HG is Holy BY MARK HALLIDAY 

Using a term Halliday coined, critic David Graham describes Halliday’s work as “ultra-talk.” The New Yorker has also praised Halliday’s poetry, noting, “He is prolix and quotidian, a Whitman in a supermarket, a confessional poet who does not take himself very seriously.”

Fun... immediate responses:
Mark Twain on heaven… This Life

Wendell Berry:  How to be a poet

Title:  Why:  what is the purpose of having a Holy Ghost?  To save us
From our absurdity… 
Why is about telos or purpose.

Bye bye Miss American Pie.
HG: more familiar
**
Chang poem: 
“This poem is a part of a series of epistolary poems that are in my forthcoming book, Barbie Chang. I wrote these to my children, knowing that despite the wisdom that comes with my own aging, they will still have to make all the same mistakes (more or less) that I have made, which is a scary thought.”
—Victoria Chang

IMHO SECTION. we don’t write letters anymore.