I will not be here to moderate. Judith had suggested reading some ballads, so I include two at the end. Bernie lent his volume of Peter Goldsworthy poems, so I chose two..
“Understanding a sentence,” Wittgenstein noted in the Investigations, “is much more akin to understanding a theme in music than one may think.” Understanding a poem, with its patterns of sound and rhythm and repetition, and its ambiguous phrases, is even more like listening to a piece of music. “Why is just this the pattern of variation in loudness and tempo?” Wittgenstein asks. “One would like to say ‘Because I know what it’s all about.’ But what is it all about? I should not be able to say.”
“Understanding a sentence,” Wittgenstein noted in the Investigations, “is much more akin to understanding a theme in music than one may think.” Understanding a poem, with its patterns of sound and rhythm and repetition, and its ambiguous phrases, is even more like listening to a piece of music. “Why is just this the pattern of variation in loudness and tempo?” Wittgenstein asks. “One would like to say ‘Because I know what it’s all about.’ But what is it all about? I should not be able to say.”
from NYBook Review article about poetry of Trakl http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/08/01/mysterious-music-georg-trakl/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NYR%20Frank%20Lloyd%20Wright%20Christians%20and%20sex&utm_content=NYR%20Frank%20Lloyd%20Wright%20Christians%20and%20sex+CID_747b6f6792cd93779974f09b6f4c4a21&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_term=The%20Mysterious%20Music%20of%20Georg%20Trakl
from With This Goes That by Peter Goldsworthy
from the section
"A Brief Introduction to Philosophy"Why
Me
This Goes With That by
Peter Goldsworthy
Zinnias by Tyler MillsThe Leaky Faucet by Ted Kooser
timing is everything by Gerald Locklin
Pomology – by Kim Roberts
The Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
La Belle Dame sans Merci: A Ballad by John Keats
Bernie's Notes
The group went well, I thought. Many appreciated the Goldsworthy poems, lots of discussion there. Lots of energy and appreciation of the Tyler Mills, "Zinnias". Also much on the Shihab Nye poem, The Tent, which many found hard to penetrate. Me too, But in prepping for the gathering I read the poems much more closely than i normally do and it began to open to me with more readings. Still, as always for her, with an enigmatic, mysteriousness wafting thru it, but gently coaxing the opening of one heart to another with some patience and gentle diligence. Judith hadn't remembered she was up this week for the ballad reading, so had not yet had her planned consult with a Scottish friend to add a few burrs to her rendering, but to my ear did a wonderful lilting job, with some little lively discussion too. Didn't get to the Keats ballad, but got thru all the rest. I have a much greater appreciation of the tension between lingering and opening up the present poem vs the pressure or desire to get to more of them. Truly an art. from With This Goes That by Peter Goldsworthy
The Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
La Belle Dame sans Merci: A Ballad by John Keats
Bernie's Notes
The group went well, I thought. Many appreciated the Goldsworthy poems, lots of discussion there. Lots of energy and appreciation of the Tyler Mills, "Zinnias". Also much on the Shihab Nye poem, The Tent, which many found hard to penetrate. Me too, But in prepping for the gathering I read the poems much more closely than i normally do and it began to open to me with more readings. Still, as always for her, with an enigmatic, mysteriousness wafting thru it, but gently coaxing the opening of one heart to another with some patience and gentle diligence. Judith hadn't remembered she was up this week for the ballad reading, so had not yet had her planned consult with a Scottish friend to add a few burrs to her rendering, but to my ear did a wonderful lilting job, with some little lively discussion too. Didn't get to the Keats ballad, but got thru all the rest. I have a much greater appreciation of the tension between lingering and opening up the present poem vs the pressure or desire to get to more of them. Truly an art. from With This Goes That by Peter Goldsworthy
from the section
"A Brief Introduction to Philosophy"
Why Me?
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