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Saturday, October 17, 2020

Poems for October 14

 Small Kindnesses  by Danusha Lamaris

And We Love Life by Mahmoud Darwish— Translated from the Arabic by Fady Joudah:  

Basho & Mandela  by Basho & Mandela by Juan Felipe Herrera— 

Monarchs, Viceroys, Swallowtails  by Robert Hedin —

September First Again  by Phillis Levin 

Daedal by A.E. Stallings    


Jim moderated; 16 people.

Comments on the two poem replaced.

Reports of the Dream You're Not Likely to Recover From  by Jay Deshpande

This was Martin's favorite:  his comments:

 title -- Reover, something LOST, forgotten, not gain consciousnesses 
line 4 -- what is under  your chin --your body, a hint where your heat lies
line 5 -- not face up to, or give it an identity.
perhaps this is a series of nights, each dying out, or incomplete
line 23 --  "ready for awaking" ready to gain consciousness 
line 24 -- "disrobed" naked, revealed
line 25 -- 'A NEW LOVER" the appearance of an inner image, a female ally, who help you
line 28 -- "timescale of your own design" -- when you are ready to make some progress.
last line -- like a conducter who can lead the way

Cradle Song by Gabriela Mistral  translated by Langston Hughes (1957)

Ginny commented: loved the poem Cradle Song. The rhythm and rhyme allowed the poem to flow nicely. There is a certain prayer like quality with the image of "cradling." 

 

Wednesday, October 7, 2020

October 7

The Teller of Tales  by Gabriela Mistral,translated by Ursula Le Guin

Besides the Autumn poets sing (131) -- Emily Dickinson

Fall  by Edward Hirsch 

Sheltered in Place   by Richard Levine,

Cento Between the Ending and the End by Cameron Awkward-Rich

https://soundcloud.com/poets-org/cameron-awkward-rich-cento-between-the-ending-and-the-end?mc_cid=9959771dc2&mc_eid=248758c95e

 

La Contadora: Gabriela Mistral, aka Lucila Godoy Alcayaga  (1889-1957) did not fall far from the tree of her poet-father in the country of poets, as Chile is called. I encourage you to  look up her bio to appreciate her life and work… her numerous quotations… such as “Love beauty — it is the shadow of God on the Universal”.  Her adamant concern for children— that the worst crime is to abandon them… to say “we’ll tend to you tomorrow” for their name is today… 

 

Comments:  She does not write about herself as teller of tales until the end of the poem; rather, the tales inhabit her.  The only time you sense her story is when she is weary and hears the sea telling stories, and “the wearier I am the more it tells me” and at the end.  Her story remains mysterious — what is the blood gift? We were puzzled why she seeks someone who remembers it to tell her.  We feel the lure of story as fairy tale, and wrapped in the history of all living things.  Lori pointed out three times she refers to trees: first the stories that come down from them, “knit me up and wind me round /until the sea drives them away.” Then the people who cut trees — who want stories before they go to sleep… And the final stanza… her story, to be told leaf by leaf.  

 

Why do old folks want stories to be lies?  It might be to wish that life had been different… to undo regrets… And for the children who want them to be true?  the innocent hope that miracles and magic of the good stories will happen.  We admired how, as conduit of stories, she allowed us too to sit, imagine stories “purring in our laps… buzzing, boiling, humming…

 

Besides the Autumn Poets Sing : oh! enigmatic Emily—

although this poem was perhaps less so… but Bernie brought up the question:  what to make of the first word?  Besides, the Autumn poets sing… as if continuing a conversation, the way seasons continue their round.  Or… Besides the Autumn, poets sing… or perhaps a spelling error,  Beside the Autumn… In spite of that conundrum, we enjoyed the adjectives — the “incisive” mornings… although no one commented on the Ascetic Eyes… the Mesmeric fingers— or even the spicy valves, which may refer to buds that harden for winter, such as rhododendron, and other capsules and nuts that fall… The two poems referred to:

The Death of Flowers by William Bryant

The wind-flower and the violet, they perished long ago,

And the brier-rose and the orchis died amid the summer glow;

But on the hills the golden-rod, and the aster in the wood,

And the yellow sun-flower by the brook in autumn beauty stood,

Till fell the frost from the clear cold heaven, as falls the plague on men,

And the brightness of their smile was gone, from upland, glade, and glen.

 

The Seasons by  James Thompson

 

Fair AUTUMN, yellow rob'd! I'll sing of thee,

Of thy last, temper'd, Days, and sunny Calms;

When all the golden Hours are on the Wing,

Attending thy Retreat, and round thy Wain,[1]

Slow-rolling, onward to the Southern Sky.  

 

Certainly they contain references to sun, to golden hours, the passing of summer, which bears on her supplication that God grant her a “sunny” mind and “Thy windy will to bear.”  In spite of being elegiac, the poem left most with a sense of soothing.

 

Fall: One stanza; Caps at each line; an odd enjambment on the 18th line as the poem moves from description to return to the second line conceit of the “season/changes its tense”.  Beautiful return on the last line of that very idea.  His “congruences” reminded me of Baudelaire’s “Correspondances” which echo as perfumes, sounds, colors resonate with each other.  

As John noted, many poems neglect the olfactory aspects — which are particularly strong in Autumn.  Here at least, we have the odor of burning leaves… 

 

The form is dense… no pause… no room to note the imperceptible way a season sneaks in.

Martin shared the poignant comment about how this poem brought out reminders of his life, the experiences of all the 90 Autumns he has lived, which prepare him for his personal Fall.  

 

Sheltered in Place:  Selected by Ted Kooser for his weekly ALP column as a timely piece, our discussion confirmed how subjective we are as readers as we project our opinions onto a poem.  Was there a mention that the turtle was taken back to the pond?  (no); Was there mention that the father had set a table with flowers, expressly to bring up their reminder of the ephemeral state of living beings to his son?  (no.) Did the boy identify with the turtle?  (perhaps).

We all would love to see that… and love how the turtle carries its home on its back, and was given a home in a different home.  But none of that was developed.

 

It was interesting to see how the father spoke to himself… it’s his idea of what happened— but that last couplet gave an enigmatic punch with no confirmation.  

 

Cento: We listened to Cameron read his poem.  Although his voice sounds a little ratchety, it is good to to hear how he paced the lines which didn't always follow the breaks.  There is only one punctuation mark— the em dash three lines from the end.  His name, Awkward-Rich is a conversation starter in and of itself, in addition to his trans and black background.  Carolyn shared an understanding that went far beyond such labels — this is a poem that touches re-birth, the power of community…    I tried to find poems that inspired the 100+ words, and did stumble on Small Kindnesses by Danusha Lameris https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/19/magazine/poem-small-kindnesses.html  We will start the next session with this. 

 

The American Academy of Poets paired it with Nina Simone singing “I wish I knew (how it would feel to be free) — a powerful performance and song.  We ended the session listening to it. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq3sdF0YXkM&mc_cid=9959771dc2&mc_eid=248758c95


The Lyrics of this song:

I wish I knew how
It would feel to be free
I wish I could break
All the chains holding me
I wish I could say
All the things that I should say
Say 'em loud, say 'em clear
For the whole round world to hear

I wish I could share
All the love that's in my heart
Remove all the bars
That keep us apart
I wish you could know
What it means to be me
Then you'd see and agree
That every man should be free

I wish I could give
All I'm longin' to give
I wish I could live
Like I'm longin' to live
I wish I could do
All the things that I can do
And though I'm way over due
I'd be starting anew

Well I wish I could be 
Like a bird in the sky
How sweet it would be
If I found I could fly
Oh I'd soar to…


Finally, here is the link to  the poignant photo-essay  in the National Geographic called "Every Mother's Son" 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2020/10/jon-henrys-stranger-fruit-shows-black-mothers-constant-fear-of-loss-and-trauma/

 

 



[1] sheaving (collecting and bundling of grains or grasses) in Thomson's poem signaled by "round thy Wain" -- since a wain can be a four-wheeled wagon that farmers have used to collect heavy bundles of grain or grass. https://fleursdumal.org/poem/103

 





Sent with the email: information about the  Image City show  (University Av.) with some beautiful photographs illustrated with words  by John Retallack— the show is up until Oct. 4.   


Thursday, October 1, 2020

September 30, 2020


We spoke about touch in the 9/23 discussion.  This reminded me of this beautiful poem by Stanley Kunitz: https://billmoyers.com/story/a-poet-a-day-touch-me-by-stanley-kunitz/

What keeps the engine going?  Sometimes the smallest thing reminds us of the desire-desire-desire Kunitz paints in this poem.


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In Passing  by Lisel Mueller

Metamorphosis   by Frank C. Modica

Things I Didn't Know I Loved  by Nazim Hikmet - 1902-1963*

A Pile of Fish by Tomás Q. Morín https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/still-life-with-golden-bream-francisco-de-goya/_wF25zyWxL0HNg?hl=en




* from Emily

This poem moved me as I sometimes rediscover things I’ve forgotten or did not realize I loved.  In this unusual time, hovering before an unclear future, it’s easy to lose these things.  What would you remember?  

Written from a train after he was released from prison-


* from Paul: A suggestion from Paul: “I was reading Pope’s Dunciad , some would say for penance, but, no, there is in it the best iambic pentameter and heroic couplets to please.  In 1723, Alex, (I always called him thus because it got his dander up about so many things including criticism of his poetic endeavors) decided to set things straight by attacking various figures in his literary world and historic time.  As I ploughed on, it                                                                                                                                                             struck me that his satire could easily be shifted to apply to the shameless buffoonery of today's presidential campaign and those characters contained in that slow-witted stage show.  I suggest to our O  pen minded brothers and sisters  that you/they might be entertained and even educated. 


Nutshell summary:

I started by referencing an interview of the poet, Mar Ka, an indigenous right attorney and poet, Mary Kancewick. http://www.radiofrepalmer.org/2019/04/16/what-can-poetry-2019-4-15/.    When the subject is dark , when something is "rotted, wormed by greed" , poetry calls out the beauty of life experience, calls ou the profound in the unusual.  I agree with her  think there is a kind of desperate hope…to say everything there is to be said about the things we love while they are still there.  Poetry helps us to imagine -- to counteract what tempts us to “disbelieve, discount, deny”.


In Passing:  Rich Wilder sent in a comment by email admiring its classic shape, the "strained honey" and "shrugs off" ... and will memorize it so he can carry it with him. The second stanza "break into blossom" reminded me of James Wright's poem, The Blessing, https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46481/a-blessing where indeed, blessing which rings in French, as  blesser which means to wound.  (La Benediction is the noun.) We are blessed when wounded... just as losing allows us the awareness of what is precious.  

John mentioned Damascus Gate by Robert Stone: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/196337.Damascus_Gate

The title reminded us that nothing is permanent... how beauty is fleeting. Barb illustrated the idea with her love of her poppies.  Dave was struck by the image of the closed bud--

I brought up the French view of enjambment, which has a name (le rejet) for the next line which receives the often surprising completion of the idea -- a landing so to speak of the stride from shrugs off to 

mystery which underlines the alliterative "break into blossom".

Joni Mitchell and the Big Yellow Taxi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94bdMSCdw20

You don't realize what you've got... 


Metamorphosis: published in this lovely online  magazine: https://theraconteurreview.wordpress.com/issue-2/


All so much fun heard in the apple's voice!  We had much  healing laughter that  especially peeled out at the end.   As Barb put it.. the poem started out in such a pedestrian fashion but  the last line delivers such a great punch.  I loved the pile-up of all that goes into "readying" the fruit, and all the poet intimates about  consumption or the parallel with human appearances and what prepares us to be consumed (reference to cartoon "Does God Eat Us" with the premise that we are a farm to develop a new complex DNA).  The Fall... the original tree... and all sorts of overtones and references to Malus domestica and  Genesis, (Elaine delivered Martin's comments about the Garden of Eden: "The last line tells me read the poem with a sexual overtone in every line in so she plucked me is dramatic, also creates me, carries me, hauls me, and distributer sends high voltage to spark plugs, displayed me in my polished perfection, examines my -- flawless skin. I'm bagged -- lost all resistance. And consuming a delicious piece of pie is like what human activity? "  Martin adds: ( First line "pluck", my "pick" as in she is a pick).  



John told us of his amazing apple tree with over 200 apples,  and his amazing grape vine and Dave H. told us of his!  


Things I didn't Know: 

This poem has been set to music -- this is a particularly lovely video with a stained glass window background: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPxWOYRqWzE


Written the year before he died, I imagine indeed, on a train.  As Susan remarked, the setting as he is rolling on a train, looking out a window is a perfect match to his roll of memory.  It is a poem in translation, so it is hard to judge from the original.. but this idea of reviewing all that is so precious to us, to rediscover things forgotten, or that you don't realize you loved, is an invitation to celebrate the power we have to cherish, no matter if emprisoned (in the case of Nazaim, 28 years of prison, in our case, the restraints of COVID).  By the middle of the poem, "my heart was in my mouth, looking at them/they are our endless desire to grasp thing" the poem has whirled and whorled in this stream-of-consciousness life journey leading up to questioning the why of it all... is it because... ?

Very hard to summarize the poem, just as it is hard to summarize the discussion.  Pete Seeger and Joan Baez both were mentioned.  

Please help with comments.


A Pile of Fish
In our discussion, we started to better understand the poem, looking at the title, and how a painting of a pile of fish (which as title sounds so unpoetic) is transformed into a pyramid  of fish (with association of funeral pyre); the association with the poet's son, where the fins resemble his curly brown hair, the transformation of the poet into the golden fish watching... allowed us to
see how the memory of an intimate moment of two friends visiting a  painting resurrects the friend for whom the poem is dedicated.

John a painter, explained that the Spanish use black, unlike most artists… it heightens the intensity and gives an intimacy, as our eye seems to draw us quite close. The fish look as if they still might have some life in them.  (Parenthesis: in the MAG, there is a wonderful Sorolla painting : http://mag.rochester.edu/hotspots/hotspot-100.html
Also you can visit the Sorolla museum in Madrid. http://www.culturaydeporte.gob.es/msorolla/inicio.html)

This site gives marvelous close-ups of the fish and I think a reasonable history and background of the period when Goya painted this: https://letsexploreart.wordpress.com/2014/06/12/raw-goyas-golden-bream/
The poem starts with counting how many fish are in this painting  uses this painting that Goya left untitled, like his other 11 still lifes.  The poem is dedicated to his friend, who loved this painting, and recalls  a special moment with him…  the  scurry to find it before the museum closes… the fact that he leaves out “golden” to describe “still life with bream” …the  comment of his friend that one fish stares at you no matter where you are in the room…  and a second metamorphosis, where the poet,  becomes the fish…  a new father — who sings to his son about Sun, sun Mr. Golden sun— please don’t hide from me in Spanish… 

The fact that his friend died, turns this poem into a tribute, a memorial… Just as Goya was starving**, and makes the fish seem alive, so the still life, (naturaliza muerta) the art form which has the message momento mori— remember you too one day will die, the shared moment of observing it, gives the poet the eyes of the fish to follow the setting sun… watching for his friend… his hunger for his friend…
It is complicated to explain all that clearly!  I knew I loved the poem right away, but am glad to have spent more time researching the painting see if I could  confirm what I was suspecting!

**Linda followed up a bit on Goya's bio, and saw no indication that he was hungry—though he certainly depicted scenes of starvation and death. What a painting!  As if to say, Maybe it’s too difficult for you to stare death in the face if the death is a human death, so let’s work up to it, starting with fish. 
A distinctive sign is the golden band between his eyes and a golden spot on the cheeks, features which bring thisfish itname of "golden bream". 
Un signo distintivo
 es la banda dorada de por entre sus ojos y una mancha dorada en las mejillas, de estas características también viene su nombrde tales como 'pargo dorado’



Wednesday, September 23, 2020

September 23, 2020

 Say Thank You Say I'm Sorry by Jericho Brown: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/books/review/jericho-brown-say-thank-you-say-im-sorry-poem-coronavirus.html

Venus & Serena Play Doubles On Center Court  by Kate Rushin https://dcs.megaphone.fm/POETS5794638452.mp3?key=0705ab06c9cffb25d0a07d6fa9f9922d


Today God  by Starr Davis

Morning Song of Senlin  by Conrad Aiken (1889–1973)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk1EM7YNLW4  (Tom O'Bedlam reading)

Two Countries by Naomi Shihab Nye

The Breathing Field by Wyatt Townley



Nutshell:


Say Thank you  Say I'm Sorry: these two expressions... of gratitude and apology introduced in the title  shadow the unspoken thanks for those who toil for us, whether in hospitals, service industries, grocery stores.

The discussion picked up on a tone of controlled anger... the unspoken references to racism, pandemic. ex. Surprising line breaksfor my big black/Car to quit; 

surprising combinations --at least one field trip /To a slaughterhouse. 
juxtapositions of high class touches, like gnocchi with those who wash their hands for us, return home on the bus.
What is it that any of us want in that "little"?  It doesn't have to be the  fancy items like the leather bound
Book, gimlet,  and real bread...  The humor and cynicism in having "PTSD of the Lord" -- PTSD meaning, a long term and recurring condition, coupled with  biblical plagues, floods.  The strength of the clipped speech, the theatrical pauses indeed makes it seem like an introduction to a complex play with many moods.  Many allusions, such as "who wears the mask".  Have we forgotten to say thank you? I'm sorry?  Inserted in the jumble, a request, " I’d like us to rethink
What it is to be a nation."  

Venus & Serena:  Although we didn't listen to Kate read her poem, the link is above.  The "about this poem" sums it up: "there you are, enjoying yourself, living your life, going about your business, and then, when you least expect it, someone is trying to put you in a color box, a gender box, a femininity box with their assumptions and limitations.”
Can't a tennis match just be a tennis match?
Thank you Kate for celebrating two classy sisters, " pounding history".

Today God: I only printed two lines of the longer poem, but they do stand by themselves. to read: https://poets.org/poem/today-god
It brought up discussion about how things have changed since 2016, both good and bad.  


Morning Song of Senlin: This is part 2 of the second section of Senlin: a Biography

Part 1:  His Dark Origins (8 sections )

Part 2: Futile Preoccupations. (10 sections)

PART 3: Cloudy Destiny ( 3 sections)

about the reader: an anonymous fellow one person believes is from Australia but has adopted a "received pronunciation" actor's style.   I love that he takes his name from the 1620 poem, rather of the same lilting sort as Aiken's style here.


Discussion involved admiring the music of the poem, as one critic says, "shimmering with ambivalences and ambiguities";  a certain sentimentality, Rosetti style;

 a "Chagall-esque" mystical upside-down-ness, and overtones of Eliot's Prufrock.

Perhaps one aspect of Aiken's persona... Senlin is held together by his routine... Echoes in Madeleine l'Engle's children's book, Swiftly Tilting Planet; Beatles' Fool on the Hill;


Two Countries :  I love that a poem can mean in such a variety of ways!  Knowing Naomi has a father from Palestine, it was helpful to hear Elaine's application of skin as border, and the many losses

as those suffered by Palestine.  What imagination to use skin as character -- the largest "organ" of our body... the separation of inside/outside; visible/invisible... and the remembering of "something larger" and people go places, "larger than themselves" -- which is not as straightforward as you might think.

Both Lori and Martin though of two countries as a man and woman;  we all felt the human need for touch...


Breathing Field: lovely "fields" of stanzas enjambed like connected pieces of a vertebrae... 

Yoga allusions... the pacing cannot be fast, like a walking meditation... the double-entendres

of "So much is still /. So much is still to be seen".  One idea behind final sentence:  a question for

guided meditation:  "What was your face before your grandmother was born?"



Monday, September 21, 2020

September 16

The Woman Who Turned Down a Date with a Cherry Farmer by Aimee Nezhukumatathil

Indispensable Lessons by Saad Ali

Human Habitat by Alison Hawthorne Deming 

If Covid-19 Wasn’t a Stain in the Wind, Would the Earth Bleed Any Less? by Anthony Okpunor

The Toothbrush to the Bicycle Tire by Sarah Kay




No Nutshell discussion this week.  Please feel free to comment on the poems!


 Elaine mentioned “Indispensable Lessons” generated a lot fo good conversation without any reference to the fact it was an ekphrastic response.   Her research into the poem: 
The ekphrastic challenge using the painting “Potato Theatre” by To Yen.https://www.ekphrastic.net/ekphrastic/ekphrastic-challenge-responses-toyen


Marna wanted to share this poem by Verlaine, The Exquisite Hour she heard on public radio,  The YouTube of the song is called, Renaldo Hahn L’Heure Exquise The Exquisite Hour.translated,  I’m not sure it was this, but you can hear the music and English subtitles here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl22CLqxwus

Wednesday, September 9, 2020

September 9

Today, When I Could Do Nothing by Jane Hirshfield

The Check In by Nandi Comer

To be of use by Marge Piercy

Boarding a Bus by Steve Huff

Dying Towns by Joshua Martin

Of the Surface of Things  by Wallace Steven

 Today, When I could do nothing: thank you Marna for suggesting this poem.  

It was clear from the wealth of angles brought up, that this is one of those “good poems”, that happily increases possibilities of meanings— as David S. put it so poetically, “its palette of possibilities”.  Written at the beginning of the pandemic, (this first day when I could do nothing), the title and juxtaposition of the 4 words “I saved an ant”, could also be about any day, as well as the first day of some major change that forces one to re-think what  can be done.

It appeared in an article in Psychology Today. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/one-true-thing/202004/poet-jane-hirshfield-today-when-i-could-do-nothing

The poem is filled with small twists of humor, such as the ant as "the loosened ink taking the shape of the ant).  A small chuckle at the sentence arises (or a small glub) reading “I am not an essential service”… also invites us to think about what is… (all the while enabling us to face fear our diminishment more easily…) The “silence enough to fill cisterns” takes me to a Cistercian abby (for Trappist monks… more rigorous in practice than Benedictines)-- back in (unspoken) time, and a chance for deep meditation. The details, observations, seem offered with gratitude, an appreciation of and compassion for the ordinary;

To quote Hirschfield https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-seekers-forum/202006/the-perfection-things-they-are

"What a reader finds in a poem is often a mirror, both of the person who is looking and listening and of the particular weather of that particular moment of listening."

Ants are fascinating to observe… fast climbers, intrepid… To elaborate on the question, “what good does it do”,  Bernie shared the Starfish Story: https://www.countryschool.net/news-detail?pk=1250796 (the link includes a few words of advice about “catching kindness from the headmistress).

The final line, “I did this” is both self-referential, “I wrote this”, as well as referring to “saving the ant”.  You do not need to be convinced that the ant might have been able to survive without her help, or readily finds comrades… the idea of a small act of kind attention… the comparison of ant to human, lends to meditating on the worth of all life… 

The question, “What then did I save” can easily extend to saving perhaps a part of herself—ah…but I see many more paragraphs ensuing and will stop here.

 

The Check-In:  

We remarked on the form which reflects different modes of anger. The last two sentences deal a real punch.  The “helplessness” in the flimsy  “I am so so sorry”, (akin to the uselessness of changing anything by saying I’ll pray for you) seizes the “so”…hurls it to so white… and three times, so late.

Nandi Comer writes in “about this poem”: “I wrote ‘The Check In’ as a response to a strange phenomenon I was noticing during the pandemic. After the murder of George Floyd and the uprisings that followed, I and other Black friends began receiving calls, texts, and emails from white people that weren’t necessarily close friends. Their attempts to connect with me really felt as if they were seeking an explanation or comfort for their own anxieties. Isn’t it always the case that Black people end up caring for white fragility? For me these messages felt like another kind of violence to endure. They made me anxious. I could not answer them, so I wrote this reply.”

To be of Use  by Marge Piercy

This is a wonderful poem to discuss “what work is”, what kinds of work bring out desire to “jump in head first”, “do what has to be done to move things forward”, do those things “worth doing well.”  Her metaphors for meaningful work can be used for all types of “work” — whether chasing a sunset, and recording it in music or painting,  writing, teaching,  as a way to increase a student’s confidence, develop clarity in thinking;  Preaching as ministry like speakers, hoping to inspire, participate in work for social justice.  Elaine brought up Levine’s poem as contrast— https://ariegr1.edublogs.org/2009/03/19/poem-analysis-what-work-is-by-philip-levine/

The ending two lines are memorable — and invite us to continue the possibilities of the circumstances— The pitcher cries for water to carry/and a person for work that is real”.  what do we make… and how can it be used? Yes, we cry for work like the pitcher, the work without which leaves us feeling empty. 

Boarding a Bus: It is wonderful to hear Steve’s voice reading his poem.  What is it we can’t afford NOT to do?  David quoted Cesare Pavese, “Every luxury must be paid for, and everything is a luxury, starting with being in the world.”

Dying Towns:  The 14 couplets deliver a fabulous word painting of the disappearance of towns… and then, the kapow of the last line — "nobody asking, who the hell I was, where the hell I was going.”  Clever line breaks, the play of “where the living went” as both the way to make a living, as well as living people; the poetic names of towns (with possible undertones of  puns on bluff, ash, popular, may), which contrasts with the harsh fact of bulldozer and inconceivable idea of a father forgetting the color of his daughter’s eyes. Susan brought up the image of a rorschach presentation…

What are the towns we carry with us from childhood?  Who were we? 

On the Surface of Things:  it was wonderful to have a personable account of Wallace Stevens, and his daughter “ready to get out of this daughter business” of handling his posthumous work and affairs.

Estranged from his family, going upstairs after dinner to his study,  his observations understand that our perception can invite the imagination.  Carolyn quoted from The Great Modern Poets in their own words edited by Michael Schmidt.

“It is possible to read Stevens for years with intense pleasure and never to care what the poems means because the sense of sense is so strong and the movement of feeling so assured.  If we do question his meanings and try to tie the poems in to them, we may displace the poetry itself.  The subtlety of his thought is less compelling than the magic of his effects on the ear and eye, his ability to rouse the ‘intellectual emotions.”

The three stanzas have a sense of “Nothing that is not there and the nothing that is” (last line of The Snow Man).  His imagination creates worlds for us… and I love that he tucks in what seems to be “a looking out” to reveal he is  actually “looking in”, reading what he has written — both act and the words describing “The spring is like a belle undressing” .  

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As ever, thank you to all.  I hope I have done justice to the lively conversation.  Martin, I invite you to add your comments, please!  You always have valuable insights, and although it was easier to hear you without the image, I know I missed your “hand” wanting to add.  This goes for everyone who “attends as a black box”.

We are all learning new lessons in patience.  Hence, these nutshells — to allow those who want to say more to be able to.  

Wednesday, September 2, 2020

September 2

In Envy of Cows by Joseph Auslander - 1897-1965

When the Virus Comes by Angelo Geter

The Children of Beslan (To My Children) by Irakli Kakabadze

Nostalgia  by Joyce Carol Oates

Preface to a Twenty Volume Suicide Note by Amiri Baraka 

Choose by Carl Sandburg 

By the Stream by Paul Laurence Dunbar - 1872-1906

we did not discuss: Climbing China’s Great Wall by Afaa M. Weaver

Nutshell summary:

In Envy of Cows: Joseph Auslander

Written in 1923, hence, at the age of 26.  We remarked the lush sounds, the variable line length which helps disguise the end-rhyme, the complexity of image and the fun of “poetic register” with words like kine (archaic word referring to cows collectively) and pellucid, and poplar trees referred to as frieze.  It is a healing poem both in subject and sound. Ah! Cows!  From the first line, we feel each movement— as if we too are cow, swinging our head, plunging into a decadent Roman feast which in 5 lines swells from “web-washed grass” to wine…   David S. prompted us to think of Keats, Ode to Autumn — commenting on the “substance in syllables” (density of sensory detail)…Indeed —the delight of the poem is that a Cow is the subject written  in the elevated style of an ode!

David H. shares this thought and Lazy Afternoon: "The poem  "Envy of Cows"  immediately brought to mind the exquisite lyrics below to a ballad called "Lazy Afternoon," from the 1954 Broadway musical "The Golden Apple."  The lyrics were by John LaTouche (with music by Jerome Moross). The imagery in the lyrics captures the same relaxing feeling as those in "Envy of Cows." The song has become a standard in the Great American Songbook. 

Song lyrics are often simpler than poems, relying on the music to elevate them, but I believe that these lyrics stand on their own. Many of the most famous popular singers have recorded "Lazy Afternoon,"  including Barbra Streisand Shirley Horn, and Tony Bennett."

It's a lazy afternoon

And the beetle bugs are zooming

And the tulip trees are blooming

And there's not another human in view

But us two

It's a lazy afternoon

And the farmer leaves his reaping

And the meadow cows are sleeping

And the speckled trouts stop leaping up stream

As we dream

A far pink cloud hangs over the hill

Unfolding like a rose

If you hold my hand and sit real still

You can hear the grass as it

Many people have sung this tune : Tony Bennett: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8syJ9kwje4

Shirley Horn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh5yakbQXLQ

Barbara Streisand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nmeiWp2OpU

 

When the Virus Comes  by Angelo Peter

On the surface, the poem allows us to consider what we have been experiencing for 5+ months…yet plays between present and future which indeed could contain a “last time”.  I wish we had a “spoken word” delivery of the poem for if we could hear his voice, perhaps that would confirm the level of satire we detect in the style, the linebreaks, the “cleverness” factor in 2nd and 3rd stanzas… the implied play on empty shelves/emptying shelves; empty selves.  Perhaps the most enigmatic part of the poem is the lacing of things that should be good— a lover’s kiss; dancing, singing, laughing — not frivolous laughter— but the laughter that understands the depth of joy.  I hope he is not toying with “who has the last laugh”… at the end… but I prefer that than to think, knowing what joy feels like, this is the last time to feel it. 

If anyone can help with the last line, I’m all ears!

The Children of Beslan (to my Children)  by Irakli Kakabadze Translated from the Georgian by Mary Childs

I wish I could read the original to doublecheck the tense.  Why the switch from present tense to past (16th line: “We left toys…”) then return to present until the penultimate line —?

I like that people found parallels between how the Russian government dealt with the 2004 massacre and how governments (especially ours)  now are dealing with multiple issues of unexplainable murders coupled with a resurgence of racism, the pandemic, not to mention ignoring ecological causes of natural catastrophes.  I appreciate also that Rose brought up how easy it is to forget… and that if without knowing the time or place of the poem, one could read it in a much different light.   

Wilted smiles…flowers for the dead… the children who “were supposed to open the door of life’s wisdom”— not for them — but for us — as if the older generations in charge have not learned the necessary wisdom to carry on… join with the  ironic “flowers have chosen a better fate” .  Yesterday was September 1st.  I am haunted by this poem to ask myself, just as a date, September 1, starting the traditional school year, the month of the Jewish New Year… (and a few days before my birthday, so yet another yearly anniversary) what is it I hide behind— and those in my culture?

Nostalgia by Joyce Carol Oates. The Poem we heard included two lines that are not in the July 27, 1998 published version of Nostalgia in The New Yorker.The printed copy does however, have a different spacing, which changes how you might read it, although the reader did seem to pause … Here is how it looked judging from the New Yorker ( I couldn’t copy it) with the additional 2 lines:

Nostalgia  by Joyce Carol Oates (rural district school #7, Ransomville, New York)

Crumbling stone steps of the old schoolhouse

Boarded-up windows   shards of winking glass

Built 1898, numerals faint in stone as shadow

Through a window, obedient rows of desks    mute

Only a droning of hornets beneath the eaves,

The cries of red wing blackbirds by the creek.

  

How many generations of this rocky countryside grown & gone

How many memories     & all forgotten

& soon to be razed.       & goodbye America

The flagless pole,         what relief!

I love it, the eye lifting skyward      to nothing

 

Thank you Elaine for mentioning FOXFIRE. https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/193917311.pdf

She is a prolific poet and complex for sure.  In the above link the idea of nostalgia proposed by Svetlana Boym is different than the desire to recreate a (usually positive, often sentimental) version of the past.  It is an interrogation of the notion of truth.  I am fascinated by all the levels and tones we could find in the second part of the poem.  Indeed… just like a haiku technique of turn as Marna pointed out… “an ironic twist” of multiple  turns… different types of punches.  

How many ways can you understand the “hand over my heart, as if I had one”?  A critique of those who do the gesture when saying the pledge, or a personal statement?  And “lifting skyward— to nothing…

The razing of America, as in removing all traces of old towns and ways of life to make room for new suburbs and replacement of community with shopping strips comes to my mind.

 

Preface to a Twenty Volume Suicide Note by Amiri Baraka (former) LeRoi Jones)

 The title itself deserves volumes!  If writing a preface to something so large, which will end in death — indeed, one feels the ground open… and the desire to count stars… just to get some fact in the enormity of what is dismissed as countable… and count the holes they leave when you can’t… leaves me exhausted…

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one to see the ending line as not the same kind of despair… There might not be answer for the daughter… but she is finding her way to cope…Of course, the isolation, the possible futility of praying, peeking into one’s own clasped hands is scarcely uplifting.


Choose by Carl Sandburg (skipped discussion)


By the Stream by Paul Laurence Dunbar

Such a beautiful, formal poem, but as David S. pointed out… knowing who wrote it and when, helps to understand the layers and see actually two very different poems.   If we read it as a timeless “White Western Canon” poem, we might come to some sad social truth… but reading it as an expression of a  young black in turn of the century America changes our lens.   Snowy-hued… white-robed… even the armored knights with silver helmets… are part of the Western White way of reading clouds.   So what sparkles (verb used twice)… and what things are mirrored?